Whew! Ed and Jeremy Scahill get INTO IT! This sounds a whole lot like some arguments I’ve had with a friend (I’m Jeremy, and my friend is Ed, although I don’t know as much as Jeremy,  and my friend is not quite as “I take his  word for it” as Ed was arguing). I like Ed, too, but here, I think he’s a bit too trusting, and as Jeremy tries to point out, a bit too happy to fall back on "the UN" as an always perfect barometer of world opinion. I’ve used MSNBC’s clipping service to grab the actual back and forth from the larger Ed segment.

Great conversation ,  even in it’s “heatedness”.  But it was true to form with the way my personal convo went with my friend.  This is more like a REAL argument,  than the “SILLY” talking  head point-counterpoint BS we so often get in the media.

(sorry MSNBC,  but your embed code wreaks havoc in my blog editor,  and I can’t spend as much time in the html/css code as I would need to fix it’s display,  so I had to remove  it.) But there’s the link to msnbc.com